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Something I found on craigslist. Haha I'm also kind of drunk right now, I found it by accident and it was interesting. here what's posted here is the same thing there but that link will eventually die, so it's here for keepsakes. Enjoy!

'I didn't write this and have no way of knowing whether or not the information is inaccurate. It is highly dangerous to perform an abortion without a physician's aid. However, I saw this on Craigslist, and thought the info should be more widely available. My posting this does not constitute a recommendation.' my disclaimer written for me by pathawi :-P

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Teen Girls: How to do Abortions at Home
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Date: 2005-11-07, 1:18PM PST

I will be offering my services to teenage girls needing abortions if Prop 73 passes. I should let you know that I've not been schooled in medicine nor in any healthcare field. But that's okay with Republicans, who are intent on helping me to start my (very profitable) business. It must be part of God's plan, if I am to go by their logic.

No law invented abortion, and no law can stop it. It is part of the human condition and my wish is for every woman's life to be honored and respected.

In the meantime, if you are afraid to tell your parents about your pregnancy, please follow these instructions which will help you to end the pregnancy as you see fit:

I support legal, safe abortion services. But, if legal abortion care is not available, or is impeded by moralists in denial, the safest way to do an abortion yourself until the 9th week of pregnancy is with the use of a medicine called Misoprostol.

In countries where abortion is legal, a medical abortion is done with the abortion pill (also known as Mifepriston, Mifegyn, Mifeprex). This medicine is used in combination with Misoprostol and has a success rate of more than 95%. Mifepriston is only available in countries where abortion is legal, but Misoprostol is also available in pharmacies of most countries where abortion is illegal. Using Misoprostol alone to cause an abortion will be successful in more than 80% of cases.

Women should never attempt to cause an abortion themselves if they live in a country where they have the possibility to have a safe and legal abortion. They should go to a doctor, because it is safer and more reliable to have an abortion in the hands of an experienced doctor. We only publish this information because women who live in countries where abortion is illegal or impeded often try other unsafe means.

Some women try to attempt to do an abortion by placing sharp or dirty objects into the womb or by punching the belly (this is the "Pro-Life" method). This is very dangerous and should never been done because there is a very high risk of wounding the insides of the woman, infection, heavy bleeding and even death, to both the woman and obviously, her fetus.

For many women ending a pregnancy is a difficult decision. When the woman cannot discuss the abortion or alternatives with a healthcare provider, we advice her to talk about it with a good friend or a relative. A young girl we would seriously advise to talk with her parents or another adult she trusts about her situation, decision and the abortion procedure.

Women that are sure that they want to end their pregnancy and really have no other means should proceed ONLY AFTER printing and studying these instructions carefully first. It is best to dicuss them with a friend. A woman should never do this alone.

If you can find a doctor that wants to help you, stop reading. Go to the doctor! Women that want to use this method, should print these pages and read them VERY carefully first. There are resources on using Misoprostol as an abortifacient all over the Internet as well. Please proceed with care, and again, not alone.

How does an abortion with Misoprostol work?

A woman should never do a medical abortion herself if she is more than 9 weeks pregnant. Misoprostol causes contractions of the womb. As a consequence, the womb expels the pregnancy. A woman can get painful cramps, vaginal blood loss that is more than a normal menstruation, nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea. There is a risk of heavy bleeding for which a woman will have to be treated by a doctor. The chance that an abortion with Misoprostol will be successful is more than 80%. Misoprostol is available in pharmacies in almost all countries. It can also be bought under the names Cytotec and Arthrotec and Oxaprost or Cytoprost.

The experience of an abortion caused by Misoprostol is comparable with a spontaneous miscarriage (spontaneous abortion). Miscarriage happens spontaneously in 10% of all pregnancies.

The risks of an abortion caused by Misoprostol are similar to those of a spontaneous miscarriage. The treatment of complications is the same as those of a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage). If there is a problem, a woman can always go to the hospital or any doctor. The doctor will treat her as if she had a spontaneous miscarriage.

Some important information that every woman who thinks about inducing an abortion with medicines should know.

Misoprostol should never be used without medical guidance in a country where abortion is legal. We strongly advise to go to a doctor or a clinic. It is safer.

A woman should make sure she is pregnant. She can do a pregnancy test or have an ultrasound to be certain.

Misoprostol should only be used if a woman is 100% sure that she wants to end the pregnancy, and a woman should try to have an ultrasound before taking Misoprostol. An ultrasound shows whether the pregnancy is in the womb and for how many weeks a woman is pregnant.

Misoprostol should not be used after 9 or more weeks of pregnancy.
A pregnancy of nine weeks means 63 days (9 weeks) after the first day of the last menstrual period. If a woman thinks she has been pregnant for more than nine weeks, or if the ultrasound shows this, we do not advise to take Misoprostol unless the woman has medical supervision. The medicine still works, but the risk of heavy bleeding, serious pain and complications increase the longer the pregnancy lasts.

A woman should never attempt to do the abortion alone. While having the abortion, it is important to have someone close by; this can be the partner, a friend or a relative who knows about the abortion and who can help in case of complications. Once the bleeding starts, someone should stay in contact with the woman to be able to help in case complications occur.

Misoprostol can only be used without medical guidance when a woman has no serious illness. Most other illnesses are no problem. Some serious illnesses, such as, for instance, severe anaemia, can create problems because of the heavy blood loss involved. Serious illnesses are sometimes a reason for a legal abortion, even in countries with restrictive laws.

Do not use alcohol or drugs during the treatment!!!

Misoprostol should not be used when there is a possibility of an ectopic (or extra-uterine) pregnancy. An ectopic (or extra-uterine pregnancy) is not in the womb (uterus) but in the fallopian tube. This little organ is situated between the uterus and the ovary. An ectopic pregnancy can be detected by having an ultrasound. Treatment by a gynaecologist is then necessary to ensure the health of the woman. If not treated, there is a risk of heavy internal bleeding due to rupturing of the fallopian tube. Gynaecologists treat women for this condition in all countries, even in countries where abortion is illegal. An ectopic pregnancy cannot be treated with Misoprostol.

Misoprostol should never be used if the woman has an intra uterine device (IUD). An IUD is a contraceptive, a small coil of about 3 cm inserted by a doctor in the womb to prevent pregnancy. A Woman who has an IUD and is pregnant must have an ultrasound made because the risk of an ectopic pregnancy is higher. If the pregnancy is in the uterus, it is necessary to have the IUD removed before doing the abortion.

Misoprostol should only be used when transportation within a few hours to a hospital is possible. That way, if complications occur, medical aid will be near.

Misoprostol should never be used if the woman is allergic to Misoprostol or any other prostaglandin. This is a rare condition, which a woman will be aware of if she has used these medicines and had such a reaction before. If she has never used the medicine before, she cannot have experienced an allergic reaction.

There is a possibility that the attempt to cause an abortion with Misoprostol will fail. The chance that using Misoprostol will cause an abortion is only 80 %. The treatment failed when the medicines did not cause any bleeding at all or there was bleeding but the pregnancy still continued. The woman can try to use the medicines again after a few days, but this can fail again.

If more than seven days after the use of Misoprostol no abortion has occurred, and if no doctor is willing to help, there remains no other option than to travel to another country to have a legal abortion or to keep the pregnancy.
There is a small increased risk of birth defects such as deformities of the hands or feet and problems with the nerves of the foetus, if the pregnancy continues after attempting abortion with these medicines. Some doctors might consider this as a reason for a legal abortion, so try to find one.

Any possible sexual transmitted infection should be treated. If there is a risk of a sexual transmitted infection (STI, also known as a sexually transmitted disease, STD) such as Chlamydia or Gonorrhoea, arrange an examination with a doctor so that the infection can be treated properly. The risk of such an infection is increased after rape (in a lot of countries a reason for a legal abortion, should pregnancy occur), or when one has had sex with an unknown person. Having an untreated sexual transmitted infection increases the risk of an inflammation of the womb and fallopian tubes. Such an inflammation is called a pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) or salpingitis or adnexitis.


Misoprostol is available in pharmacies in most countries. The brand names for Misoprostol are Cytotec and Arthrotec and Oxaprost or Cyprostol or Misotrol. Sometimes it is sold over the counter without a prescription. Sometimes a prescription is asked. It is less likely that one would need a prescription for Arthrotec.

Misoprostol is used prevents gastric ulcers. Cytotec and Cyprostol and or Misotrol are brand names for Misoprostol. Arthrotec and Oxaprost contains Misoprostol and a painkiller called Diclofenac is used for pain in the joints, or arthritis. Arthrotec is generally more expensive than Cytotec.

To obtain one these medicines, one could for example say that your grandmother has rheumatoid arthritis so severely she can not go to the pharmacy herself, and that you do not have money to pay for a doctor to get the prescriptions for the tablets.

If there are problems to get the medicines in one pharmacy, try another pharmacy, or a male friend or partner might have fewer problems obtaining them. Or, perhaps you can find a doctor willing to prescribe them. Usually one can expect more luck at the smaller pharmacies that do not belong to a chain. Misoprostol can also be ordered over the internet, but again, no guarantees here.

Sometimes Cytotec can also be bought on the black market (places where you can also buy Marijuana--all forms of prohibition are godsends to the black marketeers). However try to make sure that is really is Misoprostol and not fake or some other medicine!

The woman should buy at least 12 pills of 200 mcg Misoprostol. One pill of Cytotec or Arthrotec should contain 200 micrograms of Misoprostol. Look for the dosage of Misoprostol on the package, usually the tablets contain 200 mcg but other dosages do excist. If the pills do not contain 200 micrograms of Misoprostol, recalculate the number of pills so that the same total amount of Misoprostol is used.


In countries where abortion is illegal, Misoprostol alone can be used to cause an abortion. Wrong use of Misoprostol can be harmful for the health of a woman!!

To cause an abortion, a woman must put 4 pills of of 200 micrograms (in total 800 mcg) Misoprostol with her fingers as deep as possible in her vagina. (in the back where the womb starts) The medicines will not work when they are in the entrance of the vagina!!! The pills work even better if they are made wet before putting them in the vagina.

After 24 hours she should put another 4 pills of Misoprostol deep in her vagina. If she does not start bleeding after this second dose, she can use 4 pill of Misoprostol in her vagina again for a third time after 24 hours.
The success rate is 80%- 90%.

Another way to use the tablets is to put the tablets under the tongue or in the space between gum and cheek for at least half an hour, but preferably longer. But recent research has shown that this way is less effective then using the tablets in the vagina.

After the first dose of Misoprostol a woman should expect bleeding and cramps. Bleeding mostly starts within four hours after using the pills, but sometimes later. Bleeding is often the first sign that the abortion starts. If the abortion continues, bleeding and cramps become more severe. Bleeding is often more and heavier than a normal menstruation, and there can be clots. The longer the pregnancy, the more heavy the cramps and the bleeding will be. If the abortion is complete, the bleeding and the cramps diminish. The moment of abortion can be noticed with a peak of heavier blood loss and more pain and cramps. Depending on the length of the pregnancy, a small pregnancy sac with some tissue around can or cannot be seen. For instance, if the woman is only five to six weeks pregnant, there will be no visible sac. At nine weeks, a woman could probably find a sac in between the blood.

When the bleeding starts after taking Misoprostol the woman can also go to the doctor or hospital and tell them she thinks she had a spontaneous miscarriage. (she should never say she tried to invoke an abortion herself and that she took Misoprostol!!) The doctor will probably make a sonogram and do a vacuum aspiration. This treatment of an ‘ongoing spontaneous abortion’ is NOT illegal.

If the woman is not sure whether an abortion has occurred after the second dose, she can take 4 more pills of Misoprostol 24 hours later. If no bleeding occurs after the third dose, the abortion did not take place and the woman has to try it again after a couple of days or travel abroad to a country where it is legal or try again to find a doctor.

If a woman would want to relieve the pain, she can use painkillers such as Paracetamol.

Bleeding after the abortion: Bleeding continues lightly one to two weeks after the abortion, but sometimes shorter or longer. The normal menstrual period mostly returns after four to six weeks.

Making sure an abortion has occurred: Some women bleed without having an abortion. Therefore it is important that the woman makes sure that an abortion really occurred. It can take two to three weeks before a pregnancy test becomes negative. So if possible, have an ultrasound made about one week after the abortion to make sure the womb is empty.


The most common side effects are nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea. A woman can also have some fever. These are generally less severe if Misoprostol is used vaginally.


If there is heavy bleeding. A heavy bleeding is a bleeding that lasts for more than 2-3 hours and soaks more than 2-3 maxi sanitary pads per hour. Feeling dizzy or light-headed can be a sign of too much blood loss, and dangerous to the woman's health. If a strong bleeding does not diminish after 2-3 hours, it might be a sign of an incomplete abortion (remains of the pregnancy are still in the womb), which needs medical treatment. This can happen a couple of hours after taking Misoprostol but also two weeks or longer after the abortion.

In this case a woman should go to the nearest hospital or doctor to seek help.

If the strong bleeding happened only a few hours after putting the Misoprostol tablets in the vagina, the woman should feel with her fingers if there are any remaining tablets and remove them! If the medical professionals in the hospital find the remaining pills, they will know the woman tried to cause an abortion herself. In countries where abortion is a crime, doctors or nurses sometimes report women who have attempted an abortion to the police. We recommend, if possible, to find a doctor the woman trusts.

In countries where women can be prosecuted for having an abortion, DO NOT TELL the medical staff that you've tried to induce an abortion; you can also say you had a spontaneous miscarriage. The doctor CANNOT see the difference (unless there are remains of tablets in the vagina) The treatment is also the same. The treatment is, curettage, also known as vacuum aspiration, a doctor will empty the womb. Doctors have the obligation to help in all cases.

If fever occurs: Chills are a normal side effect of Misoprostol as well as some elevation of body temperature. However, if the woman has a fever (> 38 degrees Celsius) for more than 24 hours, or if she has a fever of more than 39 degrees, contact a doctor, because there might be an infection as a result of an incomplete abortion that needs treatment (with antibiotics and/or vacuum aspiration).

If the Misoprostol did not work: When Misoprostol did not cause any bleeding at all or there was a little bleeding but the pregnancy still continued. There is a small increased risk of birth defects such as deformities of the hands or feet and problems with the nerves of the foetus, if the pregnancy continues after attempting abortion with these medicines. Because of this low risk of Birth defects, a vacuum aspiration should be done if the woman does not have an abortion spontaneously after taking Misoprostol.


Get good contraception to prevent a new unwanted pregnancy, and girls, if your partner refuses to wear a condom or get a vasectomy to protect both you and himself, do not walk, but RUN very quickly in the opposite direction. If he cares that little about himself, you and is willing to risk putting you through the above scenario for 10 minutes of his time, then say GOODBYE to that asshole.

After the above, an IUD can be inserted by a doctor as soon as the bleeding has finished and a pregnancy test is negative or when an ultrasound shows an empty womb.

Oral contraceptives can be taken once the bleeding is finished as well, but they will not be completely safe during the first month. Use extra contraceptives such as condoms for extra protection during the first month.

Internet Pharmacies
These are some internet pharmacies that sell Misoprostol (Cytotec or Arthotec) without prescription. These have never been inspected and I've never ordered medicines with these internet pharmacies, so neither quality of the medicines nor trustworthiness can be guaranteed.

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Additional comment to those who don't like what they've read here: If you don't like it, then vote against Proposition 73. Otherwise, get ready for a lot more like this.

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